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Building an AI Guardian for Enterprise with Onyx Security CEO Maxim Bar Kogan
At this moment of inflection in technology, co-hosts Elad Gil and Sarah Guo talk to the world's leading AI engineers, researchers and founders about the biggest questions: How far away is AGI? What markets are at risk for disruption? How will commerce, culture, and society change? What’s happening in state-of-the-art in research? “No Priors” is your guide to the AI revolution. Email feedback to show@no-priors.com.
Sarah Guo is a startup investor and the founder of Conviction, an investment firm purpose-built to serve intelligent software, or "Software 3.0" companies. She spent nearly a decade incubating and investing at venture firm Greylock Partners.
Elad Gil is a serial entrepreneur and a startup investor. He was co-founder of Color Health, Mixer Labs (which was acquired by Twitter). He has invested in over 40 companies now worth $1B or more each, and is also author of the High Growth Handbook.
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We are now closer than ever before to living in a world where AI agents are smart enough to run our power grids and manage water supplies. How do we keep them from going rogue? Sarah Guo sits down with Maxim Bar Kogan, founder and CEO of Onyx Securities, to explore the complexities of supervising and securing autonomous agents at the enterprise level. Maxim explains Onyx’s product as an AI control plane, which oversees the permissions and flexible contexts of agents while balancing latency, cost, and reliability. He also discusses how current controls have insufficient context to monitor agent intent, tradeoffs for gradual model rollout, the need for vendor-independent oversight, and Israel’s growing AI and security talent ecosystem. Plus, why Maxim is all-in on AGI.
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Chapters:
– Cold Open
– Maxim Bar Kogan Introduction
– AutoGPT and Betting on Agent Actions
– What Onyx Product Does
– State of Deployment in Large Enterprises
– Securing Agents
– Why Proxies Don’t Work
– Why Onyx Trains Its Own Models
– Onyx’s Talent Culture
– Mechanistic Interpretability
– How Onyx Builds Customer Trust
– Mitigating Risk at the Foundational Level
– Phased Rollout of Glasswing and Daybreak
– Large Enterprise Holdouts
– Onyx and the Larger AI Security Space
– Should Labs Address Model Trust and Governance?
– What Needs to Happen in Security
– Why Maxim is AGI-Pilled
– Conclusion
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