Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Pat Dorsey - Buying Companies With Economic Moats - [Invest Like the Best, EP.51]
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My guest this week is Pat Dorsey, who was the longtime director of equity research at Morningstar, where he specialized in economic moats: sources of sustained competitive advantage that allow a few companies to deliver huge returns over time. Several years ago he left Morningstar to form his own asset management firm, Dorsey asset management, and build a portfolio of companies with wide moats like those he studied at Morningstar. And while moats are critical, equally important is how companies allocate the capital generated--or made possible--by the existence of the moat.
A special thank you to Brian Bares who introduced me to Pat, and to Will Thorndike--an earlier guest on the show. In the vast majority of conversations you hear on this show, I'm meeting the guest for the first time. I mention this to encourage you to connect me with anyone whose story or way of looking at the world might resonate. Always feel free to contact me with ideas.
Pat and I begin our discussion with the key differences between the sell side and the buy side, and then discuss all aspects of moats and capital allocation.
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Show Notes
– (First question) – Transition from the sell side to the buy side and the biggest surprise
– What is a moat
– What part of the stock market universe has a moat
– Pat’s framework for identifying moat, starting with intangibles
– The power of brands
– what chance does an upstart have to come in and usurp a well-established brand
– Switching costs as part of the framework for identifying a moat
– The third component of identifying a moat, network effects, and what businesses should do to effectively build one
– Last component, cost advantages/economies of scale
– How do you analyze these four components into an investing framework that can be built into an actual strategy
– How does Pat think about this from a mis-pricing standpoint
– How does Pat incorporate current price of a company in consideration for future returns when pricing a moat
– How should a company with a moat operate to protect that characteristic, especially when it comes to their capital allocation
– Which characteristic of a moat does Pat find most intriguing
– What makes for good and smart capital allocation
– What is Pat’s process for identifying the best investment opportunities
– What are good economics when looking at a company
– If Pat could take any business, but have to swap leadership, what would he choose.
– Back to his process of finding investment opportunities
– Kindest thing anyone has ever done for Pat
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